this is an exerpt from a larger conversation
if getting into pure fighting, it's always a tough discussion. fighting styles are usually tailored to a situation, so what's good for the middle of a chaotic battlefield isn't neccessarily what's good one-on-one..
that said, the style i hold in highest regard for one-on-one unarmed combat like that UFC is, would be the ORIGINAL wrestling before showmanship entered. ala 19th century travelling shows.. the expression "no holds barred" comes from there, where the wrestler would take on anyone willing to pay, and no rules besides submission and pin. the beginning of spderman had such an anachronism.
these men had to be professionals, quickly submitting bigger men who weren't above hairgrabs and cockpunches. the most respected of these men, whom even the others feared for being able to break limbs even when in a seeminly disadvantageous position, were called "hookers".
one such man was
Lou Theszthe only info i find on someone doing this in the modern age is
this guy. that second link has some good video links, though some of them are dead. boy i'm curious to see the illegal-in-olympic-wrestling moves tape ^^
more on lou theszFlip said:
>i could almost guarentee it's just jiu-jitsu and
>sambo tactics, choke holds and semi-complex
>joint locks, since that's, well, illegal in olympic wrestling.
well, just like i started off saying, different tactics have different focus. jiu-jitsu is battlefield-focused, rather than individual-target-focused. sambo i don't know much about.
according to the page tho, the specific "illegal-in-wrestling" tape cites this as the curriculum:
-hair pulling
-setting up hooks with facial attacks
-attacking ear, nose, and throat
-breaking fingers
-eye gouging
that's just that tape. from the info page describing catch wrestling in general:
"Finally, hooks differ in kind from those taught in jiu-jitsu and judo. "use your whole body as a weapon, use his whole body as a target" is the motto. A Catch Wrestler should be close to a hook at practically all times, in any position. You can submit a person using your back, knees, head and shins. Hookers employ more crippling holds and fewer slow, gradual pressure holds. As judo and jiu-jitsu are the gentle arts, Catch Wrestling can be viewed as the antithesis. It is not for everybody, but there is no question that it is effective. Styles all have benefits to offer. Instead of labeling one "better" than the other, appreciate the differences and continually strive to improve"
further:
"The main distinction between amateur wrestlers and Catch Wrestlers is that there are no illegal holds. There is so much more to hooking than arm bars and chokes. A Catch Wrestler should understand the science behind body manipulation. Leg locks, shin locks, hip cranks, forearm locks, bicep compressions, and neck cranks are all incorporated into Catch training. It doesn't matter if you are on top, bottom, sideways, or upside down. Once you understand the physiology behind hooks, you can apply them from any position, in a powerful and crippling manner."
and
here is a link that mentions both ju-jitsu, sambo, gotch, and one of gotch's teachers/predecessors, farmer burns.
During Gotch's first trip to Japan, he won the people's heart and soul with a display of REAL wrestling ability they had never seen in the professional ring before. Not only could the 6'3" - 250 pound Gotch throw with the grace, speed and finesse of a lightweight, but on the mat, he was an unstoppable force. In workouts with Japan's top judo and jiu-jitsu men, he beat them so badly, even with a gi on, that they cried for mercy. Little did they know, that before emigrating to the U.S., Gotch had also gone into the judo halls of Europe. And in his native Belgium, he earned his black belt in ONE DAY! Gotch's technique was so brutal that his wife once told a friend, "I was so glad when Karl quit going to judo and jiu-jitsu." The reason for her relief: "It was so hard washing the blood from his gi every night."